Jason Bivins grew up during the punk movement of the 1980s, rejecting the mainstream and staring in confusion at Reagan’s America. He went off to college and decided he wanted to become a professional musician. When that chapter closed, he returned to academia and started looking at how religion affects the way we think and talk about politics. Bivins is an associate professor in the Department of Philosophy and Religious Studies at North Carolina State University. Hear an interview with him about his life, work. and scholarship on WUNC’s The State of Things.